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	<title>Comments on: New Todos Icon : Draft One</title>
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		<title>By: webicons</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-3457</link>
		<dc:creator>webicons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did a perfect job.Excellent icon pack.It&#039;s nice to you to make them available.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:rossie_jordan@yahoo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rossie_jordan@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did a perfect job.Excellent icon pack.It&#39;s nice to you to make them available.<br /><a href="mailto:rossie_jordan@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">rossie_jordan@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Atlantic.mac</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-841</link>
		<dc:creator>Atlantic.mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello,

Don&#039;t forget the icon into menu extras at top right of Mac screen (it is a tiny 20x20 pix)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the icon into menu extras at top right of Mac screen (it is a tiny 20&#215;20 pix)</p>
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		<title>By: travis</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who looks at their todos icon anyway...lemme take care of the logo d, you just worry about making it open faster on start-up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who looks at their todos icon anyway&#8230;lemme take care of the logo d, you just worry about making it open faster on start-up</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Bachrach</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin Bachrach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Max. Yeah, it looks like the consensus is to look into the box. I also agree with your comment that it&#039;s very similar to what the icon already is. Let me think about some other designs or if anyone has any suggestions feel free to post them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Max. Yeah, it looks like the consensus is to look into the box. I also agree with your comment that it&#8217;s very similar to what the icon already is. Let me think about some other designs or if anyone has any suggestions feel free to post them.</p>
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		<title>By: maxpol</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>maxpol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dustin,
not J…   sorry!

brain goofed up...
blame it on my being french !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dustin,<br />
not J…   sorry!</p>
<p>brain goofed up&#8230;<br />
blame it on my being french !</p>
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		<title>By: maxpol</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-838</link>
		<dc:creator>maxpol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Justin,
so gladyou&#039;re updating ToDos.... I&#039;m mixed about the icon: it is new, but at the same time, is so close to the original that (maybe out of familiarity) I like the original better.
As a photog, i object to the box being turned the other way… it makes the movement of the contents awkward... but it&#039;s well done…

personnally I wonder if I wouldn&#039;t make an icon that replicates the look of the ToDo window... or maybe all the icons moving, but no box at all, just an explosion of small icons going in all directions from one &#039;invisible&#039; source...

my 2 cents. Hope all goes well with the development of TD2.. good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Justin,<br />
so gladyou&#8217;re updating ToDos&#8230;. I&#8217;m mixed about the icon: it is new, but at the same time, is so close to the original that (maybe out of familiarity) I like the original better.<br />
As a photog, i object to the box being turned the other way… it makes the movement of the contents awkward&#8230; but it&#8217;s well done…</p>
<p>personnally I wonder if I wouldn&#8217;t make an icon that replicates the look of the ToDo window&#8230; or maybe all the icons moving, but no box at all, just an explosion of small icons going in all directions from one &#8216;invisible&#8217; source&#8230;</p>
<p>my 2 cents. Hope all goes well with the development of TD2.. good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-839</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sooo happy you&#039;re doing this. Todos is GREEEEAAAT. Can&#039;t wait 2 use it on leopard. Thanks again for all your hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sooo happy you&#8217;re doing this. Todos is GREEEEAAAT. Can&#8217;t wait 2 use it on leopard. Thanks again for all your hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: James Young</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>James Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite glad to hear that you are working on Todos 2. I was a happy Todos user prior to Leopard, but &#039;Stacks&#039; just don&#039;t stack up to Todos (sorry for the bad pun). The ability of Todos to round up &quot;all&quot; applications from various directories, AND at various directory levels really make it more robust than Stacks IMO.

Regarding the new icon. If you were to continue using the box metaphor, I agree with some of the other comments that the current perspective and tilt may be a bit tricky on the eyes. You may wish to stick with something that&#039;s a bit more pseudo-isometric, for example see these stock icons of boxes in diff. positions (lower right to be specific): http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/?id=2961640&amp;refnum=564978

Also, by including specific application samples in the icon itself, you introduce issues similar to when iCal did not display the actual date. Like, &#039;hey, I thought I uninstalled Application-X, why is it still showing up in Todos...&#039; I&#039;m wondering whether a single falling icon based on the standard Application &quot;A&quot; might be sufficient, or no icons coming out at all, and displaying Application, Utility, and Generic Folder icons on the 3 visible facets of the box itself. Also, what about changing the color of the box to be more distinct, perhaps making it look more like the black bezel glass of the window it brings up, or color (a&#039;la pando.com).

Anyway, just some thoughts. No matter what, I look forward to using Todos 2 on Leopard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite glad to hear that you are working on Todos 2. I was a happy Todos user prior to Leopard, but &#8216;Stacks&#8217; just don&#8217;t stack up to Todos (sorry for the bad pun). The ability of Todos to round up &#8220;all&#8221; applications from various directories, AND at various directory levels really make it more robust than Stacks IMO.</p>
<p>Regarding the new icon. If you were to continue using the box metaphor, I agree with some of the other comments that the current perspective and tilt may be a bit tricky on the eyes. You may wish to stick with something that&#8217;s a bit more pseudo-isometric, for example see these stock icons of boxes in diff. positions (lower right to be specific): <a href="http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/?id=2961640&amp;refnum=564978" rel="nofollow">http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/?id=2961640&amp;refnum=564978</a></p>
<p>Also, by including specific application samples in the icon itself, you introduce issues similar to when iCal did not display the actual date. Like, &#8216;hey, I thought I uninstalled Application-X, why is it still showing up in Todos&#8230;&#8217; I&#8217;m wondering whether a single falling icon based on the standard Application &#8220;A&#8221; might be sufficient, or no icons coming out at all, and displaying Application, Utility, and Generic Folder icons on the 3 visible facets of the box itself. Also, what about changing the color of the box to be more distinct, perhaps making it look more like the black bezel glass of the window it brings up, or color (a&#8217;la pando.com).</p>
<p>Anyway, just some thoughts. No matter what, I look forward to using Todos 2 on Leopard.</p>
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		<title>By: mdmunoz</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>mdmunoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The angles of the edges where the box flaps meet the &quot;open&quot; end of the box don&#039;t look the same as the angle of the edges on the top of the box. I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s an optical illusion or if they&#039;re actually different, but it looks that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The angles of the edges where the box flaps meet the &#8220;open&#8221; end of the box don&#8217;t look the same as the angle of the edges on the top of the box. I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s an optical illusion or if they&#8217;re actually different, but it looks that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Nunu</title>
		<link>http://dbachrach.com/blog/2008/02/new-todos-icon-draft-one/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Nunu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the shadowing on the box should be more like the one of the previous icon. Has a better 3D feel to it I think. Also I&#039;m not sure why you decided to angle away from the mouth of the box, as that gives a weird perspective. It&#039;s much more box-like if we can see the opening don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the shadowing on the box should be more like the one of the previous icon. Has a better 3D feel to it I think. Also I&#8217;m not sure why you decided to angle away from the mouth of the box, as that gives a weird perspective. It&#8217;s much more box-like if we can see the opening don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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